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Fenchurch ([personal profile] fenchurch) wrote2008-05-03 12:21 pm

Seeking info on an antique cooking pan

I mentioned, just after Christmas, that my mom had given me a box full of stuff from my great-grandmother (things she had intended me to have). There are some really cool things in there (especially neat, because I had no clue we had any family heirlooms further back than about three generations), and my great-grandmother was wonderful about writing notes for every item, detailing what she knew of its history and often mentioning why she wanted me to have it. Reading through it all with my mom was really a treat, because it was almost like having my great-grandmother there with us again (she had a very acerbic wit). Among the items was a bonnet that had belonged to my great-great-great-grandmother. It's in beautiful shape... hand stitched with what we think may be whale bone or baleen sewn into it around the front fringe to help it stay a bit more rigid (so it wouldn't be falling in her eyes, I'm guessing). I'm currently working on finding a way to display it and still preserve it.

Anyway, the real reason I'm writing this is to see if anyone might know the name of a particular type of cast iron pan. This one was supposedly brought over from Ireland by my great-grandmother's great-grandmother, but the name she has listed isn't familiar, isn't showing up when googled and her handwriting there is a bit tough to decipher.
So, here it is:


And from the note she wrote for it: "This supposedly belonged to my great-grandmother Greer. I've been told she brought it with her from Ireland. Do not know the year. It was called a (gern???) iron. She passed it on to my mother. In her time, as in mine, it was used to bake cornbread. The story goes that one of my mother's sisters, when a child, broke it."

I realized Livejournal might be a good place to ask after watching the most recent episode of Good Eats ("Honey, I Shrunk the Cake"), where Alton Brown was going through the history of cupcakes and pulled up a pan that looked remarkably like the one I have and called it a "Gin Pan" (no idea on spelling). I literally leaped out of my chair, because it was so close to the "gern" or "jern" or "genn" or "jenn" that my great-grandmother had written. But I've still had no luck tracking it down online.

The one interesting tidbit I've run across is that "jern" is actually Norwegian for "iron." No clue if there's any relation between that and the pan (or "iron" as my great-grandmother called it).

So, anyone have any ideas? I figure with all the folks on my flist, there has to be someone who is either into antiques or cooking or lives in a region where the term is more commonly used who will know exactly what it is!

[identity profile] twilightofmagic.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it's for oatcakes.

[identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly. At least originally. It would certainly make more sense than cornbread in Ireland! :-)

[identity profile] sillymagpie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. The oatcake theory might be right. I've never seen one before. I wonder if you could get a response from the Food Network if you dropped a line to Alton Brown on their website?

[identity profile] cindergal.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a gem pan. There's a similar one on this page - just scroll down: http://www.michianaantiquemall.com/kitchen.htm

[identity profile] sillymagpie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Corn gems! That's why "gem" sounded so familiar!

[identity profile] textualdeviance.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Looks like you're correct. (http://digital.lib.msu.edu/projects/cookbooks/html/museum/object_036.html)

[identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!! The moment I read the word "gem" there it completely clicked. I have no idea why it never occurred to me that it might be an "m" rather than two "n"s. Very cool!!

See... I knew it would be a good idea to ask here. My flist knows all!

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
I thought 'gem pan' as I read, without the pictures even. Although I had expected it to be slightly deeper in each 'cup'. Although it is a description you wouldn't hear often where I am.
You could use it for oatcakes, or for drop-scones, and the name being an 'iron' implies that it is a griddle pan, rather than an oven one.

[identity profile] sillymagpie.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I turned up nada in the search for pans, but I did come across this yummy-sounding recipe for Cranberry Upside-Down Skillet Corncake (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_36471,00.html) from Emeril. Drool!

[identity profile] julia-here.livejournal.com 2008-05-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also called a fritter pan; it's best used on top of range with a griddle top, heated, greased, and the batter poured in (works for individual Yorkshire puddings, too).

You can pre-heat it in the oven and fill it with batter, but then it should be put on a baking sheet for safety.

Julia, would love one of those; my grandmother's is long gone

[identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Cool! Yeah, I was totally shocked to find out this whole box of stuff even existed. A lot of it was from my great-grandmother's time, but there were a few items that went a little further back (including some Victorian Valentines and calling cards).

[identity profile] nutmeg3.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've never seen anything even remotely like it. I wonder if some kind of antiques site would help you track it down?

[identity profile] queenofattolia.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's a gem pan, which means small cakes (precursor to cupcakes). Gems are still made regularly in the South (usually made in small cupcake pans and with jam or jelly in the center). I'm wondering too if maybe your great-to-many-powers grandma also used it for boxty or fadge, which would have been the bread of choice for an Irish person in the mid-19th century (well, apart from soda bread), potatoes being the staple food at that time. Maybe not - it's interesting to speculate, though. Cool antique pan, at any rate.

[identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Like I told [livejournal.com profile] cindergal, I should have asked on my LJ sooner... because the folks on my flist know all!

I had never heard of gems before, but it makes complete sense now.

I'm wondering too if maybe your great-to-many-powers grandma also used it for boxty or fadge,

I'm guessing so, as well. I certainly doubt they would have been making a lot of cornbread in Ireland! And, of course, these particular ancestors settled in the South after they emigrated to the United States.

I'm so excited, because I really had absolutely no clue where to even start to look... especially since I was so badly misunderstanding my great-grandmother's handwriting.

[identity profile] rosiewook.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
On the bonnet? I'd suggest calling a local museum to get advice from the curator. My mom had great luck talking to them about the current thinking with some of my grandmother's trusseau.

But, then again, those lie flat.

[identity profile] fenchurche.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually got my mother-in-law looking into it. She teaches in the Clothing and Textiles Department at the local University and volunteers at the art museum there, so has a lot of contact with the sort of people who preserve this type of thing. I think I may need to nudge her about it again, since I suspect she's forgotten.

[identity profile] cyndisuesue.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Glad to read that the FList pulled it off for you - and so quickly. What a resource it is, indeed.

Does Missi know about the Victorian Valentines?!She adores that stuff!

[identity profile] zotel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
my first thought on the bonnet was one of the armour helmet displays, with a glass cover. Not sure about the light exposure tho, since anything "special" as far as glass would probably be pricey. But if it were kept out of direct sunlight...

Or possibly a manequin head under glass?