fenchurch | Quick ROTK thoughts

I need to go through and read everyone's LJ comments still, but I'm about to drop from exhaustion so I figured I'd post some of my own really quick thoughts...

ROTK is the best movie ever made. Seriously. I walked out of there wanting to turn right around an watch it again... while also lamenting the fact that it's likely to be quite awhile before we get a chance to see the extended version.

Eowyn totally kicked ass! She's is *so* my hero. There's real girl
power for you...

My OTP is canon! I'd been hoping Eowyn and Faramir would get together since Two Towers... and when it looked like Faramir was going to die all I
could think was "No!!! He hasn't met Eowyn yet!!!" They're so much more interesting to me than the Arwen/Aragorn, who were actually a bit bland on the 'ship scale of things.

I was so surprised that Frodo went with the elves too... I wasn't expecting that at all. I kind of wonder what happens to Merry and Pippin, because I'm not sure they'll be able to settle back down into Shire life like Sam did.

Anyway, that's it for now. I got almost no sleep last night (and woke up at 7:00 this morning with no alarm while it was still pitch black outside!), so I think I'll just go lapse into a coma now. Anticipation is the worst source of insomnia.

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I kind of wonder what happens to Merry and Pippin, because I'm not sure they'll be able to settle back down into Shire life like Sam did.

You haven't read the books? Should I tell you? (You haven't read the books and you knew Eowyn and Faramir would end up together? That's impressive.)

Anticipation is the worst source of insomnia.

I don't know - I think I'm having more trouble getting to sleep tonight, after having seen it. It just won't get out of my brain. :)

You haven't read the books and you knew Eowyn and Faramir would end up together? That's impressive.

Well, in "Two Towers" I decided I really liked Eowyn and I liked Faramir. I knew Eowyn didn't wind up with Aragorn so I started thing "Who could she be 'shipped with? I know! Faramir!" It also made some sense in the mythic fantasy novel tradition.

The books are very much worth reading, and the appendices to RotK explain what happened to everyone in a good deal of detail. As I recall, Merry and Pippin do settle back into the Shire, although they also maintain their ties to Rohan and Gondor, respectively. And Sam ultimately follows Frodo into the West, although not until after a long life in the Shire.

I'm impressed as well that you could pick up on Eowyn and Faramir from what was in the movie. I would expect to see more of that in the extended edition.

The books are very much worth reading, and the appendices to RotK explain what happened to everyone in a good deal of detail.

I've been tempted to go through and just browse the appendices... I've always enjoyed the stories, but I could never get into Tolkien's writing style. I've started The Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring many, many times over the years (because I *should* like the books), but he writes like Melville... getting so bogged down in the details that it distracts from the plot.

I'm thinking of giving them another go... I've got some friends who've been talking about doing a group read -- a few chapters a week and then discussing them in chat. I might be able to get through the books and enjoy them that way.

You haven't READ it?!? Goodness gracious, rush right out in a buying frenzy and get it! My then-aunt (she and my uncle later divorced) gave me the box set for Christmas 1977, and I think I've read them about 900 times. But I agree it may be the best movie EVER, and I'm also very impressed you twigged on Eowyn/Faramir, considering how much of their lovely relationship was chopped out.

You haven't READ it?!? Goodness gracious, rush right out in a buying frenzy and get it!

Nope, but we do have some very nice editions of Tolkien's work. I've always recognized their literary merit (even more so after I had a friend in college who did his thesis on Tolkien), and their massive amount of influence on the genre...

Like I mentioned, I am thinking about giving them one more try (though I may wind up missing the looks on people's faces when they find out I've never read them ;-)

Fen, you're going to love the Extended Edition (if it has all the Eowyn/Faramir bits from the book). Or better yet, go to the library and skim for the scenes in the Houses of Healing. Then after that, check out the Appendix in the back of the book. It actually tells what happens to (almost) everyone, including who they married, how many kids, when they died, etc. It also gives a pre-history that was glimpsed a bit throughout the films.

you're going to love the Extended Edition (if it has all the Eowyn/Faramir bits from the book).

That's what I've heard.

Then after that, check out the Appendix in the back of the book. It actually tells what happens to (almost) everyone...

That's what I've heard... and I actually had a very nice friend give me a brief rundown recently. Enough to mostly satisfy my curiosity (including explaining some of the backstory I'd been wondering about).

I second/third/fourth/fifth everyone's recommendations on reading the books - I think Tolkien's somehow getting this bad rap for being "turgid" these days, but I read those books over and over again as a kid, so they couldn't have been *that* hard!!

Just so's you know - the lovely scene of Arwen's fate in TTT (the one where he's dead and she's mourning him?) - it's straight out of the appendices... I love how they translated that onto film.

And Faramir & Eowyn have some GORGEOUS stuff in the book - I expect some of that will be in the extended edition of the movie, which I really want RIGHT NOW!

I second/third/fourth/fifth everyone's recommendations on reading the books - I think Tolkien's somehow getting this bad rap for being "turgid" these days, but I read those books over and over again as a kid, so they couldn't have been *that* hard!!

Nope, it's not that the writing is hard to read, per se... just long-winded about things that aren't as interesting to me in a story. If I do read them again, I think it'll help that I've got someone else's imagery in my head for the overly descriptive scenes.

I SO think we should do the book-discussion group - I'm sure I'll pick up stuff I've missed, and it would be fun to talk about what's different (for better or worse) between the movies & the books ... Maybe we can do a LJ community or something - I'll get on that after the holidays!

You know you wanna read these books now... give up your Tolkien agnostic ways!

Heh.

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